It isn't as if his life hasn't been filled with so many things, including death and murder and theft, but kidnapping seems more trouble than merely ending a life once you've gotten the information you need. Kidnappings mean that they might escape and secrets could go with them. Death was a better choice.

"Wonderland? I guess that sounds a bit familiar," he says, considering that. He's not much of a reader, but he's heard of the books. He thinks. "In whatever the book is you're mentioning. My sister reads a bit." A lot of a bit, but that's really her thing.

"I'd have thought it was crazy before this place," he admits. "But given some I've met here..."

Given how old some of them should be, dust and gone twice over, he's starting to believe in a lot more than he did before.

"This is madness to me though, but I believe you." He makes a bit of a face. "So your kidnappers never paid for their crimes?"